July 18, 2011

How a Carbon Tax Works Pt. 1

  • ph1ly

    I came to this site because i thought it was supposed to be unbiased. These videos smudge figures and are like government ads. Australia is the biggest polluter per capita…why is this not stated rather than “Australia is the biggest polluter?” Companies will put prices up – consumers will pay – i get nothing back according to the calculator and i’m a student who earns <10k. It also makes manufacturers who export less competitive…none of these things have been said anywhere.

  • Doylesport

    For the first time in my life I am voting Liberal.  I earn $500 a week and my compensation is $6 a week!!! Not even a kebab! This is a joike. We are being slugged so wankers who sit on their backsides for a living can feel good about themselves.

  • Burnsrich

    Listen to what you are saying learned friend, if you pollute more it will cost you less. Why should we not pay for our impact on our only planet. This tax will make carbon light products more competitive. Why should my rates be so high in disposing of my unnecessary waste, why should my rubbish bin be full of unnecessary packaging, that is essentially a billboard. Why can’t you ge more out f what you are using?

  • Dave

    You know the compensation means you get 6 bucks more than you lose right? So you are better off with the tax? Just call and thank the govt for your kebab :)   Joking, please don’t abuse me. If you really are struggling, and not just a Liberal PR guy working from home, then you really don’t have too much to worry about from the carbon tax.

    The Labor party may do some stupid things, but this really aint one of them.

  • Doylesport

    No, it’s six bucks all up. My grocery bill varies more than that from week to week, so it’s meaningless compensation. I also think prices will rise substantially moe than that. I can’t afford to move closer to work (I live 170ks from where I work) because even if a) I found somewhere affordable and b) I could rainse the bond – neither of which is a given – I still couldn’t afford the elctricity on top of that. And thge carbon tax will have what effect on electricity prices? This is a permanent ratcheting down of the standard of living for the working poor and the compenxsation package is hopeless. What I can’t understand is why they are using markeret type arrangements (it does become a trading scheme in afew years) when they could build publkicly owned solar thermal baseload and keep costs down and send the private coal fired power stations broke. The whole thimng stinks and a lot of Australians can see through it.

  • ph1ly

    the argument isn’t about helping the environment….everyone would agree we should do what we can – but this isn’t the way to go about it. Everyone knows the wastage that occurs when governments implement taxes – i mean they are going to take money from us….then give it back – not very efficient would you agree? How about setting industry relevant standards and then taxing companies that don’t meet them? This way companies have to improve to stay competitive and the bar is constantly pushed higher?! Also I’m cheesed because i didn’t get my $950!!! :)

  • Bob

    In video you say 500 million tonnes carbon pollution each year.  Graph indicates this is CO2.  Please be specific, is it 500 million tonnes of Carbon, or is it 500 millio0n tonnes of Carbon Dioxide?

    What is the authority for this statement (500 Mtonnes)?

  • Dan

    Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Carbon Pollution are the same thing.

  • larry flint

    please comment but you must first identify yourself

  • Alex

    And thus lies the overhanging problem with Australians. Everyone wants something for nothing. Pathetic

  • Camot_91

    There is a rising tide of anti- man made global warming proof out there. Government-leaning science institutions, who are dependant on funding, are doing everything to discredit, harrass and lie with their pro global warming campaign. Look up the watergate email scandals, ect, of scientists lying to the public. Even Al Gores video has been banned from UK schools since it is ‘propaganda’ and not fact. Although he is already a billionaire from all this.

    Just look at who benefits from a carbon tax. Government, and obedient climate scientists.

  • Camot_91

    There is a rising tide of anti- man made global warming proof out there. Government-leaning science institutions, who are dependant on funding, are doing everything to discredit, harrass and lie with their pro global warming campaign. Look up the watergate email scandals, ect, of scientists lying to the public. Even Al Gores video has been banned from UK schools since it is ‘propaganda’ and not fact. Although he is already a billionaire from all this.

    Just look at who benefits from a carbon tax. Government, and obedient climate scientists.

  • Vivienne Tobassa

    This reminds me of when Thatcher introduced Poll Tax – i.e. households paid regardless of their proportionate ability to pay.  
    Perhaps we will have the same anarchic riots?  Doubtful – Australians are more controlled. The poorest of the poor who tended to have the larger families paid more than the extremely wealthy.  Well perhaps its PM Gillard being a resettled migrant with birth and immigration from Wales that gives me the similarity.  

    How IS that boat people exclusion migration policy going?Would not the first step in eco security have been for Australia to finally ratify Kyoto – as the only other ‘developed’ (US under Bush Administration) nation in the world not to???!!!

    Really I support curbing consumerism that is non green.  Yes in today’s society this new policy is anti-capitalist but we need a new movement.  Good on you Julia.  Now the next step is getting the TNC and MNC who ARE producing and marketing the goods to get us to buy them – to pay something also or change their practices.

  • Sportydoggie

    this site isnt biased, its just factual.

  • Jungwhan

    Rubbish, this is nonsense

  • Jungwhan

    julia gilard has a big nose..

  • Reg

     Who are you calling big nose?

  • Nekminute

    on ya mate!

  • Nekminute

    fuck oath Jungwhan!!!

  • Nekminute

    Sure thing chicken wing ;)

  • Nekminute

    i wanna bang julia gillard !

  • Nekminute

    i wanna get a kebab now braahh

  • Sue

    The problem is that despite this kind of information - ordinary businesses are telling everyone they are putting their prices up by 200% and 300% …everyone is blaming carbon tax not greed on the part of the business.  How can prices be going up 200% when the tax is 23% in the first place ???  The Govt is going to get blamed when it is greed – just like when GST came in …

  • Sue

    There is no need to be personal… 

  • Camot_91

    $23 per tonne starting price.
    Way higher than any other country, and other countries are getting out of the man made climate change scam. People aren’t buying it anymore, especially when people keep finding out they’re being lies to and propagandad on.

  • B3c

    Although individually Australian’s pollute more, Australia’s population compared to say the US, India and China is minuscule. So obviously Australia compared to those countries with such a high population rate pollutes NOTHING!

  • Sustainable future for all

    Aussies, wake up! We are not living in the 80s anymore…even if many people still behave like we do. I have never experienced any culture being so un-senitive about the future and only supporting the “sell-out” of a whole continent. The wealth of the whole nation will benefit – that is much more important than the problems of some individuals. Where is your “Australian Culture” gone?
    And reading the PM Allison comments – do you have any education, behavior or style? How do you guys want to act on an international stage? Very sad!

  • Ghabpatel

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I have heard about this from other people and I did not believe it was true but I decided to take a look at this. Is it really that smart to be burdening business and people during a time of global economic instability? 

  • Ted Bundy

    Dear oh dear. The UK Poll tax had many exclusions for low paid. People paid based on their level of use of local services not the size of their house. It acted as a rallying point for the hard Left because the only way they could avoid paying it was by removing themselves from the electoral role. Eventually the thought process realised they couldn’t vote any more.